https://hwbot.org/submission/4943498_

Finally had a short break from work to tinker a little bit. I still have a lot to figure out.

10 hours ago, luisxd said:

 

I think the only downside is the P-OLED screen, makes it almost useless under the sun.

Yes, if you are in direct sunlight it looks very dim, and you need max brightness to be barely usable. It does not really affect me, but I have noticed in the rare times I have needed to view my phone screen while standing in direct sunlight. For the most part it is not a relevant issue for my use pattern.

4 hours ago, Reciever said:

I dont imagine this lasting long, at all, if it does I may lose to temptation.

 

GLWS good sir!

Thanks, bro. This is the only place I have it listed for now, so you might have ample opportunity for the temptation to get the best of you. 😉

Yes, we need this thread. Thank you, Brother @Papusan for starting it. LTSC 2019, and to a much lesser extent, LTSC 2021 are the only acceptable versions of Windows 10. LTSB 2015/2016/2017 were even better, but too many things no longer work with those versions because the Redmond Reprobates are manipulative gangsters that arbitrarily decide "compatibility" (fake incompatibility) based on what best serves their nefarious purposes. (Truth be told, I don't think any of them are actually "good" but definitely not nearly as bad as the mainstream alternatives that followed them.)

Defender Control is very useful. Better yet... I like to break out the big guns and nuke the crap entirely. I use this instead. It leaves Firewall, but takes out the rest of the bloated garbage and frees up system resources in a big way. Combine it with Chris Titus Debloat script and it will cut your Windows 10 down to Windows 7 levels of OS overhead.

Remove Defender v4.0.zip

There is no turning back once you do it. I never want to go back, but scaredy cats might want to make a Macrium Reflect images if they prefer "free" trash antivirus software over a crisp, clean and nice-running computer.

Price: $400.00 -SOLD-

Condition: Excellent

Warranty: None

Reason for sale: Upgraded - no longer needed

Payment: Cash, PayPal, Zelle

Item location: San Tan Valley, AZ

Shipping: Actual Cost - Buyer's choice on shipping vendor, speed, insurance, etc.
 

International shipping: NA - but, I will make an exception for someone I know well enough from NBR (cost basis same as above)
 

Handling time: Ships next business day (local pickup also available)

Feedback: eBay Feedback (unfortunately no longer have thread at NBR)

Specification: Combo Includes

• ASUS ROG Strix Z490-H ATX Motherboard
• 10850K, Delidded, Copper IHS, SP84 (very good silicon - rare for 10900K and more rare for 10850K - see benchmarks below)
• Patriot Viper DDR4-4000 16GB (2*8GB) Samsung B-die, Custom XMP profiles, manual OC stable to 4400 CL16/4500CL17
• 256GB Samsung NVMe (OEM)
• Fresh W10 Pro install, Activated with Digital License to this hardware (nothing else installed, virgin installation, ready for you)
  
  If you are planning a custom loop and need a block, I will include an XSPC Raystorm block and mounting hardware at no charge.
   

Proof of ownership: Time Stamped pictures

50 minutes ago, Vasudev said:

I'm making an W11 ISO and trying in a VM before uploading to Mega since my PC doesn't support it officially, I noticed image editing especially adding updates/apps took 2-3x more time than W7/8.1/10.

Honestly, other than the more logical hierarchy of things in the Windows Control Panel, I cannot really identify anything else that I like or think is good about Windows 11. For the most part I think it is an abomination, both functionally and aesthetically.

1 hour ago, Keith said:

Good to know. Thanks for sharing. It looks like it's built off of the Chrome engine, at least to me anyway. Lol. The last I remember, you were using Brave. Did that not pan out for you?

Yes, it is based on Chrome and that is one of the reasons it is decent. I liked Brave but found using it too inconvenient in terms of sync function and having to unblock too many things. It is more secure, but I value the convenience more than I worry about security. Both are important, but if I am going to use something that is more secure it needs to be equally convenient as what I am giving up.

31 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

I think it is enabled in the BIOS. Called OC Dashboard? But, it is still not working for some reason. Maybe mine is defective.

It is working. I am not sure what was wrong. I disabled it in the BIOS, shut down and disconnected it. Booted and re-enabled it in the BIOS, rebooted. Then shut down again and plugged it in. Now it is working. Maybe it just needed to be reset or something. It is really too bad this doesn't have round cable that is very flexible like a USB cable rather than the flat ribbon cable. It's a nice gadget. I like it.

22 minutes ago, johnksss said:

I may pay a visit to MC Tomorrow and see if they have some from around that batch....Only problem is I don't have an Asus motherboard for verification.😟

If you know someone well that works there, maybe they would be willing to test one or two on an in-house build using an ASUS mobo if you slipped them a little something extra for the added effort. In the name of customer service, of course. 😉

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

As long as it's turned on in the bios it will work. It controls either bclk or multipliers, over clock retry and over clock save boot. Also clear cmos.

I think it is enabled in the BIOS. Called OC Dashboard? But, it is still not working for some reason. Maybe mine is defective.

3 hours ago, johnksss said:

Did you cpu come with the original box? if so, does it have any numbers on it?

Here you go, Brother...

39 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

 

That's definitely above average right there, so that is indeed a very good chip. You should be able to hit 42 on the Ecores. I believe with a delid and the chiller on that chip, you should hit 12500cb

Awesome that's good to know. It'll be fun tuning it. I just literally took a wild guess and hit save and exit on the BIOS. It'll be interesting to see how low the voltage can go and how high the clocks can go at the same time.

So if you already have an EK Quantum Velocity block I and more than happy to send you this back plate. The one I ordered from EK that includes the bolts and nuts was only a penny and with the shipping it was about what I paid for this for the backplate only with no other hardware from Amazon, LOL.

The threads in it are larger than the studs on my OptimusPC hardware kit, but I'm guessing you should be able to use the studs with the EK block you already have and the only thing different is the wider spacing. That is just an assumption on my part. The threads for the studs in the backplate are the same size as the x299 mounting hardware from OptimusPC, but the studs are not long enough to reach through to the back plate.  Otherwise I could have used the x299 hardware.

9 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

Where did you guys get your 1700 cpu block kits from? I know I can pay a penny to EK for the mount but it will take awhile to get. I'm looking at the 1700 CPU blocks from EK

The OptimusPC blocks don't require a kit. They are pre-compatible. They use individual bolts with large nuts on the underside of the mobo, with no backplate. That said, I like using a backplate, and also have used one on all of my systems. So, I ordered an EKWB Quantum Velocity backplate on Amazon. The bolt threads are the wrong size on the Optimus kit. So, I can't use it with the bolts from OptimusPC. If you want it you can have it, just pay the shipping USPS Priority. I ordered the kit from EKWB today so it would have the correct size bolts, but I don't actually need it to use my system with the hardware provided by OptimusPC. I just like the extra integrity of having the backplate to relieve pressure on the motherboard around the bolt holes.

31 minutes ago, johnksss said:

I left out that part about going to the restroom. lol

😄- I figured any more detail than that would be TMI...

31 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Yes, there is quite a bit to go though. I'm wonder if not having the extra power to the board is going to make a really big difference.

Do you mean the PCIe auxilliary connection? If so, I wondered the same. I hope it can handle the demands of the 3090 KINGPIN on the PCIe slots.

31 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Did you cpu come with the original box? if so, does it have any numbers on it?

Yes, I will upload a photo later tonight after dinner and TV with Mrs. Fox

31 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Edit: did yours come with the over clock module?

Yes, but I haven't figured out how to turn it on yet. It is plugged in, but doesn't seem to do anything. I will have to look at the manual. Probably user error on my part

I haven't really done any tuning yet and I will definitely need to use the chiller and maybe some liquid metal if not a delid. I basically arbitrarily decided to set multis for P and E cores, didn't touch cache yet, and chose 1.300V to start for the CPU and then applied the XMP profile with 1.350V on the RAM. I don't even know if this is good, because I haven't really been studying 12900K benchmark that close yet.

33 minutes ago, johnksss said:

I hear ya. I was a bit under the weather for the last few days, but nothing serious. Just a common cold. Hope you feel better.

 

I already like this board better than my extreme, not so sure against the Apex or the Kingpin Dark, but time will tell.

I got the CPU and RAM a couple of hours ago. I like it, but there is a lot to learn. MSI BIOS and 12th Gen are both new to me. This seems like a really good CPU sample. Voltage needs seem low.

Glad to hear you are feeling better. I am much better than I was, but still having some issues that require frequent dashes to the bathroom.

16 hours ago, Rage Set said:

 

Lol. I think he's just a proud American who believes in his rights. 😉

Amen to that! More firearms in the hands of law-abiding citizens makes for a safer country, and one that is less likely to become a dictatorship. It is really true that if guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns. And, let's be honest. Sometimes "insurrection" is just the right thing to do. This nation was founded on it, and the possibility of it happening is useful to the extent that it keeps government in its proper place. The thing that was called an insurrection in January of last year was not.

Well, the Unify-X is all set up and waiting for the CPU and RAM to arrive.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Windows 11 KB5010414 accidentally hides Start Menu, Microsoft responds windowslatest.com | Feb 28, 2022

Although the Start Menu is not flexible in Windows 11, it still allows users to quickly access the installed apps. The Start menu isn’t broken in Windows 11 KB5010414 update, but users have reported that the menu automatically hides when they hover over icons pinned to the taskbar.

 

 

According to Microsoft officials, this is not a ‘bug’. In fact, it is a design feature. Starting with KB5010414, Windows 11’s widgets board is now pinned to the left side of the taskbar and it can be launched when you hover over the icon. This seems to be causing a conflict where Start opens and then closes immediately. Not so sure new features is so much better than their self introduced bugs @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix 😀

 

Windows 11 KB5010414 breaks the Start menu
It seems the new Windows 11 update isn’t just messing with the Stat menu. Some users have also been experiencing issues with the taskbar where it will either not load or appear blank/blank.

Feature? They sound like Dell by saying it works as intended instead of fixing their messes. That reminds me of PeeWee Herman crashing on his bicycle, jumping up and saying, "I meant to do that."

The new StartIsBack for Windows 11 fixes everything wrong with the taskbar and start menu, and nothing is broken or malfunctioning as it is with the native hack. It fixes a lot of stuff that is jacked up with Windows 11's tacky UI, including the stupid looking and inefficient new right-click context menu. It made my Windows 11 look exactly as it does using StarIsBack on Windows 10. I refuse to use Windows 10 without StartIsBack. It is an essential as far as I am concerned. I install it as soon as I reach the desktop on a clean install, even before product activation or drivers.

It made using Windows 11 a whole lot less disgusting, but it still had too many things about it that remained unacceptable to me, so I reclaimed the drive space it was wasting.

As many of you already know from past posts and comments on the old forum, I am working on the idea of becoming a Linux-only PC user because I hate what Windows has become. I prefer a Windows 7-like DE because it's familiar and just makes the most sense to my brain. This thread has a simple purpose (as the title implies).

Just did a clean install of ZorinOS 16 on my work desktop and switched it to Cinnamon DE. This system has three 1080p 144Hz displays. The toughest part of that is finding a wallpaper I like that looks good to me when spanning all three screens. (That is challenging no matter the OS.)

For best results, insert the image from a hosting site using the "other media" button and paste a direct link to that image. If you upload the image to the forum it will be downsized and won't show full resolution. When viewing an image inserted using a direct link you will need to click on it three times to view it full resolution.

On 2/25/2022 at 8:54 AM, RandomIdiot said:

IMO, all browsers suck in their own way. It's just a matter of finding the one that sucks least for my needs

Amen to that. It's really true. IE was the last real no-nonsense piece of software for view web pages. I'd still be using it if so many web pages didn't mitch and boan about it. That whole era of computing was better because things were simple. Then somebody thought it would be special to try to make web browsers a digital Swiss Army knife. Now we have Chrome OS. Computing in general is starting to suck and the suckiness of web browsers, and software as a whole, is a symptom of it.

21 hours ago, johnksss said:

I need to get caught up in here, but i did read where brother fox is getting the msi unify-x board.

my board just came in today. the extreme is getting packed up and sent back to the store. my ram booted first try on this board with no tinkering what so ever. facepalm!

Hey Brother John good to see you. Now I am playing catch up on the thread. I've been sick all day and spent most of the day sleeping, and when I wasn't asleep I've been stuck in the bathroom. Not a fun day.

So yeah the motherboard is here. The CPU and memory should be delivered on Monday, as FedEx does not deliver to home addresses on weekends unless the shipper pays extra for it.

If I feel better by Sunday afternoon I'll go ahead and get everything else set up on the Wetbench while waiting.

Great GPU at a decent price  Good luck with the sale, bro. Hopefully someone that needs it here will find it and get a good deal and save you from having your wallet molested by the eBay cartel.

Forgot to post this earlier in the month. Firestrike GPU score:

https://hwbot.org/submission/4939342_mr._fox_3dmark___fire_strike_(gpu)_geforce_rtx_3090_55381_marks/

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/27152397

8 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Whats wrong with the AMD platform? Same Samsung ssd but different results. Hmmm @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix

https://hwbot.org/submission/4939145_bastiaan_nl_as_ssd2.0_nvme_7131_marks

Once we can identify what is right with them we can worry less about what is wrong with them. Right now all I am seeing is trash. The world is being run by stupid losers, so it is probably unfair of us to expect anything intelligent or great to be coming from AMD. But hey, there is a first time for everything.

5 hours ago, Talon said:

 

I'm excited for you lol! 

Thank you. I am excited as well. I wish I didn't have to wait until Monday for the CPU and RAM to arrive.

While it was a challenge to shoe-horn the Z490 Dark into the 5000D, now that it is in there I really love how it looks. The challenge was routing the cables because the E-ATX form factor places all of the connection sockets over the edge of the grommeted slots the cables pass through. In all other respects, it fits better than the Strix did because the top radiator is thick and gives no extra space at the top of the mobo. Due to the rotated VRM, CPU and RAM layout, it has adequate clearance.

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

And then you have the tree huggers in California state governments that always go in front for more energy efficient products. 

Whenever the environmentalists get involved everything gets screwed up real bad. Cancel culture sucks and is fundamentally wrong, but I cannot identify a group more worthy of being canceled. The California and Oregon variety of tree-hugger is extra-goofy.