Rage Set Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, Raiderman said: No, just using wattman. What is MorePowerTool? Use this while we still can https://www.igorslab.de/en/red-bios-editor-and-morepowertool-adjust-and-optimize-your-vbios-and-even-more-stable-overclocking-navi-unlimited/3/ 4 A Change Is Gonna Come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I remember back in the ATI days flashing vbios on my 3850's to make them 3870's. Can we say flash a new vbios from a sapphire nitro to a pulse? that would raise the default clocks a bit. I have not done any vbios stuff in a long time. I did see your screen of your memory OC, and was wondering how it was so high, thought maybe it was afterburner. Wattman limits it to 2150mhz or something/ 1 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 getting there no aa no dlss and im averaging 55fps with crysis benchmark. can it run crysis settings 3 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, Raiderman said: I remember back in the ATI days flashing vbios on my 3850's to make them 3870's. Can we say flash a new vbios from a sapphire nitro to a pulse? that would raise the default clocks a bit. I have not done any vbios stuff in a long time. I did see your screen of your memory OC, and was wondering how it was so high, thought maybe it was afterburner. Wattman limits it to 2150mhz or something/ MPT allows you to remove those limits I botched the vBIOS edit on one of my 5700xt's this weekend though I didnt do any research to see if it was write protected, I dont think it was but oh well its an easy fix 2 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Reciever said: MPT allows you to remove those limits I botched the vBIOS edit on one of my 5700xt's this weekend though I didnt do any research to see if it was write protected, I dont think it was but oh well its an easy fix How did you fix it? Two cards installed at the same time? Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 hmmm, doing something wrong. RBE says not supported when trying to load the navi21 rom. Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 so we all benchmark but i was thinking why? do we have a pleasure pursuit or a work related reason.. heres maxed and optimised similar but the difference is the difference worth it for pleasure....would I want 200 plus fps or 67fps 2 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reciever Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Raiderman said: How did you fix it? Two cards installed at the same time? Thats one way to do it, easiest method is just plugging into the iGPU with the dGPU installed in the same system. Its practically the only reason why I hold on to one optiplex 9020 or similar type of system. 3 Telegram / TS3 / Twitter 2700X to 5800X3D upgrade! With a 10850K cameo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 9 hours ago, tps3443 said: MSI Unify-X has improved drastically since the new bios. Lower SA voltages, and easier memory overclocking. DDR5 8000 booted in to windows first try. And no BSODS so far! CPU at 6.0P/4.8E/5.1R and DDR5 8000!!! 1.400V VDD2 Auto 1.400V CPU IMC Auto 1.200V SA Auto 1.665V VDD MEMORY 1.665V VDDQ MEMORY 9 hours ago, Etern4l said: Same with the MEG ACE, steady progress with each BIOS upgrade, which has been pleasantly surprising, even though it would have been ideal if they had got everything right at launch 😉 I'm on the hunt for a good, fairly inexpensive, DDR5 motherboard that can do 7600+. I was just going to snag an MSI Z790I Edge as it is certified 8000+ but if the Z690 Unify-X can do 8000 now (2x16GB) I might grab one of those instead used. I refuse to pay the outlandish prices for the Apex, Dark or Tachyon. 3 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 It is now the beginning of February... I said many months ago when many were lamenting the scalpers and scarcity of cards to wait for ~Feb 2023 for clarity and market conditions were nowhere near the same as during the CryptoPando times. It was just holiday/new product conditions. Checking Newegg, plenty of 4090s and 7900xtx's in stock now along with 4080, 4070ti and 7900xt's all at MSRP (select shipped/sold from newegg). 3 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rage Set Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 2 hours ago, Raiderman said: hmmm, doing something wrong. RBE says not supported when trying to load the navi21 rom. Are you using MPT alone? With my card, I am able to adjust the PPT with MPT and writing the SPPT, then restarting my computer. The changes take hold. 1 A Change Is Gonna Come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, Rage Set said: Are you using MPT alone? With my card, I am able to adjust the PPT with MPT and writing the SPPT, then restarting my computer. The changes take hold. Watched the video and it says not to use write sppt, it does nothing now anyway when clicked. Save mpt file, then use Red bios editor and open stock Navi bios, then transfer saved mpt. I cannot get that far though. Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 hours ago, ryan said: I have AVG should I uninstall that also? 100% should been done yesterday! 1 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Etern4l said: Linux can be quite friendly, but it's somewhat picky about its friends. i like that 😉 5 hours ago, Etern4l said: while Linux excels on the server, it can these days serve as a great workstation no doubt! i have been using linux well over 30 years through its evolutions and flavors surging over time, i have most respect for linux and linux users, 5 hours ago, Etern4l said: while beating the hell out of Windows on performance 100% the issues remains allot of users just don't know or its not intuitive for them to unleash the platforms full potential, 4 hours ago, Raiderman said: How does this compare to yours? 4 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said: i like that 😉 no doubt! i have been using linux well over 30 years through its evolutions and flavors surging over time, i have most respect for linux and linux users, 100% the issues remains allot of users just don't know or its not intuitive for them to unleash the platforms full potential, What drive is it? Samsung? Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPC8MyBrain Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, Raiderman said: Samsung? yes, D, E, and F are Samsung, C drive is OEM 256GB Xioxia drive dell ships with, 1 the impossible is not impossible, its just haven't been done yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Raiderman said: How did you fix it? Two cards installed at the same time? What Reciever said or a BIOS programmer. My CH341A was probably one of the best purchasing decisions I've made for my computers, it's saved my life many times lol. 3 Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted February 4, 2023 Author Share Posted February 4, 2023 3 2 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 4 hours ago, electrosoft said: I'm on the hunt for a good, fairly inexpensive, DDR5 motherboard that can do 7600+. I was just going to snag an MSI Z790I Edge as it is certified 8000+ but if the Z690 Unify-X can do 8000 now (2x16GB) I might grab one of those instead used. I refuse to pay the outlandish prices for the Apex, Dark or Tachyon. Yeah, the robust RAM support was one of the many selling points for me, as it was clear that getting a 4xDDR5 DIMM config to work faster than 4000 or 4400 MHz could be a challenge. MSI's RAM compatibility list looked more impressive than those of comparable Asus, GB and AsRock boards. I would say that MSI delivered somewhat well on that front, with no issues in general. Some of those top-end boards were out of the races for me based on feature gaps, such as all the 2-DIMM ones (although such boards are not unreasonable for most people, given the current performance penalty involved in using 4 DDR5 sticks). 1 "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Hey everyone the Supercool GEN13 direct die blocks are in-stock!!! Only 10 or 11 of them left. I ordered mine earlier today!! Such a rare and amazing product! http://www.supercoolcomputer.com/product/46/direct-die-intel-gen13-2 2 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiderman Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Tenoroon said: What Reciever said or a BIOS programmer. My CH341A was probably one of the best purchasing decisions I've made for my computers, it's saved my life many times lol. I have 3 of those 😁 3 Lian Li Lancool III | Ryzen 9 9950X | 48gb G-skill Trident Z5 DDR5 8000mhz | MSI Mpg X670E Carbon | AsRock Taichi Radeon 7900xtx Bykski Block |Raijintek Scylla Pro 360 custom loop| Crucial T700 1tb WD Black's SN770 500gb/1tb NVME | Toshiba 8Tb 7200rpm Data | EVGA 1000w SuperNova |32" Agon 1440p 165hz Curved Screen | Windows 10 LoT 21h2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Tenoroon said: What Reciever said or a BIOS programmer. My CH341A was probably one of the best purchasing decisions I've made for my computers, it's saved my life many times lol. Agreed. I ordered one of these over 4 years ago: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DZC36GY/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 along with: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072KYK2DR/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It has paid for itself over and over again and gives you a freedom to try certain things with the ability to recover. 2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: If price was no object, this would be a clear pick. $800? Yikes.... (Sounds ironic after picking up a Suprim X 4090...I know). 1 hour ago, Etern4l said: Yeah, the robust RAM support was one of the many selling points for me, as it was clear that getting a 4xDDR5 DIMM config to work faster than 4000 or 4400 MHz could be a challenge. MSI's RAM compatibility list looked more impressive than those of comparable Asus, GB and AsRock boards. I would say that MSI delivered somewhat well on that front, with no issues in general. Some of those top-end boards were out of the races for me based on feature gaps, such as all the 2-DIMM ones (although such boards are not unreasonable for most people, given the current performance penalty involved in using 4 DDR5 sticks). I picked up a pair of G.Skill DDR5 7600 sticks (and a 3070 KO) from a local(ish) member on the ocn forums for a really good price. Met up with him Thursday for pickup. I'm starting the slow transition. I have a set of 6400 M-die sticks also primed and ready for a potential 7800X3D build out. I just want to keep the total cost of the DDR5+MB under 500. All I need to do is wait and snipe an Edge Z790i for $300 or less to meet that price point. I know my 12900k will tank way before the motherboard and memory ever will. I'll have to either accept it as is or fight the urge to start binning some 13900k/f/s chips for 7600+ IMCs. The news the newest BIOS for the Unify-X is giving @tps3443 8000 speeds is promising (and maybe lessens his hunger for a Tachyon and Apex?). 3 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Was trying to tune some settings in the BIOS and I bricked it. I'm holding FN+D before I turn it on and nothing. Is my memory incorrect or did I really mess something up. I'm pretty sure that you can hold FN+D on the Prema BIOS to clear the CMOS. 1 Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 25 minutes ago, Tenoroon said: Was trying to tune some settings in the BIOS and I bricked it. I'm holding FN+D before I turn it on and nothing. Is my memory incorrect or did I really mess something up. I'm pretty sure that you can hold FN+D on the Prema BIOS to clear the CMOS. FN+D to clear or good old remove CMOS battery and battery and hold power for 30-40 seconds is next. Also try resetting and booting with one module. 2 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenoroon Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 Just now, electrosoft said: FN+D to clear or good old remove CMOS battery and battery and hold power for 30-40 seconds is next. Also try resetting and booting with one module. Removing the CMOS battery worked. Something about @Mr. Fox BIOS settings doesn't bode well with my P870TM. I understand his guide was for the P870DM3, but it just doesn't like it. I don't do the memory tuning or uncore like he did because I'm not trying to OC my terrible RAM right now. Maybe something with the static voltage for the CPU? I understand what most of the settings do besides the IMON offset, maybe it could be that. I just tried a second time without adjusting as many settings and it still bricked. I hope I don't goof anything up hard enough to render a CMOS reset useless. Edit: Out of all things, the BIOS bricks itself whenever I adjust the cache settings or when I switch from Adaptive to Override voltage for the CPU (It's either one or the other or both). I will look more into it tomorrow as I am going to go out with some friends and am running short on time. Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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