*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Papusan]

Fanboys will eat everything. Even increased costs which provide you nothing! Of course the HW manufacturers will take an advantage of it. The desktop world isn’t any different than the Jokebooks word. This is just sad. 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2462-amd-radeon-6750xt/

 

And should you wait for 4090 Ti that Nvidia will most likely offer later (refresh/milking?) a year before next gen 5000 series cards pop up? Could be since they probably will release the cards a bit earlier than the normal. 

 

Isn't it nice? 3090Ti K|ngp|n cards is barely out and we may see the 4000 series cards (4090 rumored to offer 90% higher performance vs 3090Ti) well within 3-6 months. 

 

I expect it's a golden opportunity for Nvidia to give the 4000 series cards a real price hike if they at same time continue produce and sell 3000 series cards. Rumors say that Nvidia will continue with 3000 cards forwards to help the gamers to have a chance to buy cards. I rather think they will use this opportunity to puh the MSRP higher than ever for next gen cards. Isn't this what we call Greed ?

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/294910/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-twice-as-fast-as-rtx-3090-features-16128-cuda-cores-and-450w-tdp

 

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-with-16128-cuda-cores-and-450w-tdp-is-allegedly-twice-as-fast-as-rtx-3090

 

[Mr. Fox]

23 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Fanboys will eat everything. Even increased costs which provide you nothing! Of course the HW manufacturers will take an advantage of it. The desktop world isn’t any different than the Jokebooks word. This is just sad. 

https://www.techspot.com/review/2462-amd-radeon-6750xt/

While all of the issues relating to inflation and governmental mismanagement are real and causing tremendous harm to all of us due to incompetent leadership, that has nothing to do with a "new release" of basically the same product with a higher price tag. The issue is not the price, but the "new" product that isn't new, offers nothing compelling, and doesn't legitimately qualify as an upgrade anyone should want.

[KING19]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Shut down all of the programs that are open and kill all of the unneeded Windoze bloat Services, set Cinebench.exe to run in  realtime priority and your best yet score will be even higher. All of the junk that is running slows things down measurably.

 

You can also try monitoring your temps while running cinebench to see if your CPU is throttling due to overheating and lift up the back of your laptop to provide better airflow instead of laying it flat on a table.

[Reciever]

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

While all of the issues relating to inflation and governmental mismanagement are real and causing tremendous harm to all of us due to incompetent leadership, that has nothing to do with a "new release" of basically the same product with a higher price tag. The issue is not the price, but the "new" product that isn't new, offers nothing compelling, and doesn't legitimately qualify as an upgrade anyone should want.

 

Its basically the weird gray area between re-badge and refresh.

 

Same chip, faster memory. Does it help? Sure. Is it worth pursuing? not really. Even for mining as of currently it has about the same as the 5700xt, though I suppose it needs some time to mature.

 

I still want a 6900xt but my finances and opportunities just didnt line up this time around.

[Mr. Fox]

14 minutes ago, Reciever said:

 

Its basically the weird gray area between re-badge and refresh.

 

Same chip, faster memory. Does it help? Sure. Is it worth pursuing? not really. Even for mining as of currently it has about the same as the 5700xt, though I suppose it needs some time to mature.

 

I still want a 6900xt but my finances and opportunities just didnt line up this time around.

It would make sense if they presented it as an "overclock" or "Super" (I don't like NVIDIA's choice of words here, but it's in the right train of thought)  rather than a new/different product. Pretending that it is something new seems more deceptive. Nobody is going to complain about paying more for a "superclocked" GPU, and they already expect to pay more for that. We gladly pay more for binned CPUs and RAM that have been tested and validated to run stable at higher clock speeds. Same thing here.

[electrosoft]

5 minutes ago, Reciever said:

 

Its basically the weird gray area between re-badge and refresh.

 

Same chip, faster memory. Does it help? Sure. Is it worth pursuing? not really. Even for mining as of currently it has about the same as the 5700xt, though I suppose it needs some time to mature.

 

I still want a 6900xt but my finances and opportunities just didnt line up this time around.

 

Agreed, plus it depends on your criteria and where you plant yourself in upgrade cycles. 

 

For example if you've been a, "I'll get a K|NGP|N and that's that," knowing you have the best EVGA has to offer for that generation and ride it to the next generation; well now you had your world upended as EVGA for the first time will have two different KPE models within the same generation to reflect Nvidia for the first time quite a long time having been pushed to the wall with AMD breathing down their necks with rasterization performance that is trading blows with the 3090 AND 3090ti depending on titles and resolution.

 

Now we see reports of Nvidia doing the same shenanigans and releasing "close but no cigar" to their top silicon next gen 4090 and if you want the best of the best then you will have to wait for eventual 4090ti and THEN wait even longer for EVGA's KPE 4090ti unless EVGA is comfortable releasing 2x KPEs again which means if it were me I would wait till the very end of the cycle and upgrade to the best again....

 

.....or you just upgrade each (or every other) cycle to the x080 model.

 

Or money is no object and in the moment you buy the best regardless of what's coming up because you're a Rockerfeller and that's how you roll.....

 

Say what you want about AMD but they didn't hold anything back from the jump.

 

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

It would make sense if they presented it as an "overclock" or "Super" (I don't like NVIDIA's choice of words here, but it's in the right train of thought)  rather than a new/different product. Pretending that it is something new seems more deceptive. Nobody is going to complain about paying more for a "superclocked" GPU, and they already expect to pay more for that.

 

The memory modules are new, some of the boards have been redesigned to handle more pull and heat and many have new cooler designs that are bigger and beefier. What was previously select "binned" chips for a select list of models are now the core basis for the 6950xt too but yeah I get it.

[Reciever]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It would make sense if they presented it as an "overclock" or "Super" (I don't like NVIDIA's choice of words here, but it's in the right train of thought)  rather than a new/different product. Pretending that it is something new seems more deceptive. Nobody is going to complain about paying more for a "superclocked" GPU, and they already expect to pay more for that. We gladly pay more for binned CPUs and RAM that have been tested and validated to run stable at higher clock speeds. Same thing here.

 

In those terms its likely to be a damned if you do and damned if you dont kind of scenario. If they followed their Nvidia's badging it would just be a "Cheap knockoff" but if they didnt its what we get now.

 

Was never really a fan of the SC cards with the slightest of bumps which granted the same imperceptible level of performance gain.

 

I honestly just see it as a V2, but Nvidia also used that as well with all the LHR mess.

 

What they should've done is just calling it like it is, 6900 XT 18Gbps and a beefy cooler. We would criticize price of course because nothing is perfect but arguing price is pretty common at this point.

 

3 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

Agreed, plus it depends on your criteria and where you plant yourself in upgrade cycles. 

 

For example if you've been a, "I'll get a K|NGP|N and that's that," knowing you have the best EVGA has to offer for that generation and ride it to the next generation; well now you had your world upended as EVGA for the first time will have two different KPE models within the same generation to reflect Nvidia for the first time quite a long time having been pushed to the wall with AMD breathing down their necks with rasterization performance that is trading blows with the 3090 AND 3090ti depending on titles and resolution.

 

Now we see reports of Nvidia doing the same shenanigans and releasing "close but no cigar" to their top silicon next gen 4090 and if you want the best of the best then you will have to wait for eventual 4090ti and THEN wait even longer for EVGA's KPE 4090ti unless EVGA is comfortable releasing 2x KPEs again which means if it were me I would wait till the very end of the cycle and upgrade to the best again....

 

.....or you just upgrade each (or every other) cycle to the x080 model.

 

Or money is no object and in the moment you buy the best regardless of what's coming up because you're a Rockerfeller and that's how you roll.....

 

Say what you want about AMD but they didn't hold anything back from the jump.

 

 

 

 

NBT can no longer tolerate your input until such a time that your editorial practices better reflect the gamers values (hint: its not rasterization)

(double hint: This is in jest :3)

 

Its promising to see AMD doing well, or at least much better than they had before with Phenom II and AM3+. Thanks to that it seems I may have Mr. Fox bundle as a primary and my AMD 2700x as a offloading system. Thats 18 cores, not to mention my Windows frankentop which is 8 cores. Just a few years ago everything was 4c/8t. At least for what my budget could accept lol.

 

My 5700XT let me OC to 1080ti levels so I was quite happy with that. Maybe my next card will be the rtx 2080ti as I may be able to get my hands on a accelero xtreme IV 🙂

 

[jaybee83]

4 minutes ago, Reciever said:

 

In those terms its likely to be a damned if you do and damned if you dont kind of scenario. If they followed their Nvidia's badging it would just be a "Cheap knockoff" but if they didnt its what we get now.

 

Was never really a fan of the SC cards with the slightest of bumps which granted the same imperceptible level of performance gain.

 

I honestly just see it as a V2, but Nvidia also used that as well with all the LHR mess.

 

What they should've done is just calling it like it is, 6900 XT 18Gbps and a beefy cooler. We would criticize price of course because nothing is perfect but arguing price is pretty common at this point.

 

NBT can no longer tolerate your input until such a time that your editorial practices better reflect the gamers values (hint: its not rasterization)

(double hint: This is in jest :3)

 

Its promising to see AMD doing well, or at least much better than they had before with Phenom II and AM3+. Thanks to that it seems I may have Mr. Fox bundle as a primary and my AMD 2700x as a offloading system. Thats 18 cores, not to mention my Windows frankentop which is 8 cores. Just a few years ago everything was 4c/8t. At least for what my budget could accept lol.

 

My 5700XT let me OC to 1080ti levels so I was quite happy with that. Maybe my next card will be the rtx 2080ti as I may be able to get my hands on a accelero xtreme IV 🙂

 

rofl, i totally got that reference @editorial direction change 😁

 

also, i like where this is going with the accelero, keep us updated on that bro 😉😋

[Mr. Fox]

I had never heard of it before. I found this video. If this is an improvement over stock thermals, that certainly is scary. Seems like liquid cooling is the only solution that makes good sense for a GPU that runs that hot.

 

 

[Reciever]

1 minute ago, Mr. Fox said:

I had never heard of it before. I found this video.

 

 

He's an idiot.

[Mr. Fox]

5 minutes ago, Reciever said:

He's an idiot.

Could be. I have never seen him before. It is crazy that his GPU memory is hitting 100°C with that massive back plate.

 

Edit: I searched for other YouTube videos on the Accelero Xtreme IV and there are not very many. If it works Xtremely well, it is unfortunate that Arctic didn't send out review units so that more people would have the opportunity to know about it.

[Reciever]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Could be. I have never seen him before. It is crazy that his GPU memory is hitting 100°C with that massive back plate.

The Arctic Accelero IV does not come with VRAM heatsinks, those you buy yourself.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

10 minutes ago, Reciever said:

The Arctic Accelero IV does not come with VRAM heatsinks, those you buy yourself.

Have you seen this? Looks pretty impressive for an air cooler as well. Very similar idea. 

 

https://www.newegg.com/black-raijintek-0r100022/p/2T3-0007-00004

 

 

Also stumbled onto this... interesting. (Edit: appears this is a concept, but not a real product yet.)

 

[Reciever]

Just now, Mr. Fox said:

Have you seen this? Looks pretty impressive for an air cooler as well. Very similar idea. 

 

https://www.newegg.com/black-raijintek-0r100022/p/2T3-0007-00004

 

 

 

Yeah! That was its competition to arrive much later. I also like that cooler but the Accelero IV was the cooler that always got away due to circumstance.

 

I plan to own both and use them for HWBOT submissions, the Accelero would be a personal achievement, the Morpheus II would be much more practical for submissions.

[Mr. Fox]

14 minutes ago, Reciever said:

Yeah! That was its competition to arrive much later. I also like that cooler but the Accelero IV was the cooler that always got away due to circumstance.

 

I plan to own both and use them for HWBOT submissions, the Accelero would be a personal achievement, the Morpheus II would be much more practical for submissions.

It looks like the Accelero might be discontinued now, which would make your comment about sourcing one make more sense to me now. I could see how that would give it a collector's item status. It is strange that I have never heard of it before. It would be sad to think a truly excellent product had a short life span if it was simply because Arctic didn't put enough effort into marketing. I know that people who like CPU air cooling really dig the huge tower air coolers and this equivalent monster for their GPU would be something a lot of them  would be really excited about if they knew it existed.

 

It looks like the guy that did that video might be a relatively new channel. His oldest video is less that a year old and he has only 225 subscribers. Seems like a nice fellow. I found he had this installation video as well.

 

 

[Reciever]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It looks like the Accelero might be discontinued now, which would make your comment about sourcing one make more sense to me now. I could see how that would give it a collector's item status. It is strange that I have never heard of it before. It would be sad to think a truly excellent product had a short life span if it was simply because Arctic didn't put enough effort into marketing. I know that people who like CPU air cooling really dig the huge tower air coolers and this equivalent monster for their GPU would be something a lot of them  would be really excited about if they knew it existed.

 

It released in 2012 iirc so it had quite a long life span, it likely became more difficult to source the raw materials during covid and I have no idea where they do the actual manufacturing. 

 

Anyhow, it and the morpheus 2 became the only options for aftermarket cooling after a while and the morpheus 2 has less compatibility issues due to its all mass and nothing else approach (which is also attractive) 

 

You should be able to find more reviews with the accelero and the 1080ti, not sure how many tried it with the 2080ti. 

 

Anyhow, a lot of inquiries for the accelero on reddit were typically met with "waste of money" or "same cooling as aib". 

[Mr. Fox]

9 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

16 hours ago, ryan said:

my best yet 12265 or something...wonder how it stacks up

Also use the Chris Titus Windows debloat script and run that, remove Cortana, OneDrive and any of the other worthless trash that you can live without. All of that worthless rubbish steals CPU clock cycles and makes your computer run slower.

 

https://christitus.com/debloat-windows-10-2020/

Hey, Chris Titus has his new tool available now. Use this link instead of the one above if you want the newer tool  https://christitus.com/windows-tool/ (although the old one still works, this is the newer option).

 

 

[Reciever]

47 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

It looks like the Accelero might be discontinued now, which would make your comment about sourcing one make more sense to me now. I could see how that would give it a collector's item status. It is strange that I have never heard of it before. It would be sad to think a truly excellent product had a short life span if it was simply because Arctic didn't put enough effort into marketing. I know that people who like CPU air cooling really dig the huge tower air coolers and this equivalent monster for their GPU would be something a lot of them  would be really excited about if they knew it existed.

 

It looks like the guy that did that video might be a relatively new channel. His oldest video is less that a year old and he has only 225 subscribers. Seems like a nice fellow. I found he had this installation video as well.

 

 

 

RTX 2080Ti seems perfectly tamed with the Accelero Xtreme IV 🙂

 

Find it hard to believe what tames the RTX 2080Ti cant tame the RX 5700 XT beyond incompatibility or user error.

 

Seeing as how in the video from that idiot he displays the cooler working just fine for someone else, then notes that there is only a backplate instead of heatsinks for the vram. I conclude, he is an idiot.

 

Im sure he puts in effort, but it feels like a quantity over quality channel.

[Rage Set]

My Z690 Dark will be appearing on the marketplace here soon. Keep an eye out if you are interested. I don't have the time to really dedicate to take advantage of the board. My loss can be your gain. 

[Papusan]

Our old friend, the salesman Frank Azor is out again to promote the advantage with Radeon RX 6000 graphics cards. All is about better performance per dollar. As well FPS pr Watt. Remember buy some popcorn, then just wait for Nvidias response. Gamers is suddenly their target. Why now and not before? 

 

AMD’s new battleground is performance per dollar.

 

https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-claims-to-offer-better-performance-per-dollar-than-nvidia-gpus-across-its-entire-radeon-rx-6000-stack

 

1th place 3DM 05 - GTX 1070

https://hwbot.org/submission/4997795_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_1070_99709_marks

 

 

And Happy independence day May 17 to all Norwegians around the world 🙂

 

[Mr. Fox]

3 hours ago, Papusan said:

Our old friend, the salesman Frank Azor is out again to promote the advantage with Radeon RX 6000 graphics cards.

One thing we know about Frankie-boy. Whatever he is selling, it is the best. Even when it ain't. 'cause that's how Frankie rolls. But, that's not unique... lots of his peers in the industry do the same. And, their followers accept what they are told, and that's how the sheeple roll. 

 

Friendly reminder: Frank... Thou shalt not bear false witness.

[Mr. Fox]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4997815_mr._fox_aida64___memory_read_ddr5_sdram_111730_points

[Reciever]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

One thing we know about Frankie-boy. Whatever he is selling, it is the best. Even when it ain't. 'cause that's how Frankie rolls. But, that's not unique... lots of his peers in the industry do the same. And, their followers accept what they are told, because that's how the sheeple roll.

You cant put a price on peace of mind, which is why its included in the listing 🙂

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Reciever said:

You cant put a price on peace of mind, which is why its included in the listing 🙂

The difference between peace of mind and piece of mind is the latter always comes free. 🤣