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doesnt matter what any of us believes. simple facts: - the more complex a component gets, the more potential points of failure it has. whats more complex? a motherboard with integrated gpu, cpu, ram, storage, wifi, etc? or just one of those components by itself? based on just my own personal experience ive had psus, cpus, storage, motherboards, gpus, fans, displays and periphery fail on me at one time or another. this stuff happens, its not imaginary 😄 - with each passing year the risk of a failure in any of the above mentioned potential points of failures rises significantly. all its takes is one fault and bam, paperweight with only a slim chance of repair due to highly proprietary, highly integrated parts offered by a single vendor. next step? throw out the whole machine and buy a new one... thats not a direction id like to endorse with my wallet, even if it means that i get to safe a few bucks today when it bites me in the ass tomorrow....
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currently finishing up stock baseline of benches to get an idea of performance on cpu, gpu and ram before we continue with prema magic. what ive noticed: once the gpu hits above 70C consistently (not sure when exactly, its somewhere around 70 to 75C), the vRAM clocks suddenly start fluctuating, ive seen anywhere from 6000 to 8000 Mhz. if there is interest, i can post my baseline results for reference here in the thread once done 🙂 and then later on compare to the max attained numbers with premamod.
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took you up on your suggestion and had a look around with regards to reviews (as mentioned before, i didnt have any info on the legion 7 series cooling). seems to be doing quite nicely: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-7-16ACH-in-review-Gaming-powerhouse-with-good-16-10-display.545205.0.html so on that front, looking good so far. as for pricing, the walmart offer is indeed a good one, considering that the initial price offering (at least here in europe) when the machine hit the market was more like 3500 USD+, so basically same pricing as the X170KM-G. Now, the issue here being that Clevo is exclusively a butique shop brand, shops like walmart or best buy would just never offer clevo machines 😄 so unlikely that you would see such discounted prices. one more good thing to see about the legion 7: apparently, lenovo offers a 3 year warranty as standard and with roughly 60 USD on top u can buy an extra year for a total of four years. so that would at least somewhat offset the headache of all components being soldered down and with one defect turning the whole machine into a paperweight. with all that being said, for me personally it would still be a very very hard choice to invest 1800 USD (with added tax on top!) for a one-shot configuration, which could never be upgraded in any significant manner... or even repaired at home, for that matter, without having to swap out the whole motherboard (especially once outside warranty). so i guess thats the choice everyone has to make for themselves: pay more for a longer lifetime / sustainable solution or save a few bucks in the here and now without thinking about tomorrow 😅
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will keep u updated for sure 🙂 did a 10 min CB23 test yesterday and turns out long term the 12600 is only running at 3.6-3.7ghz all core due to heat, so delid definitely required. about time for the drivers! so far it was empty for our model at the clevo website. thanks for the heads up!
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i would say one of THE most played game series on my part is Wolfenstein. starting with return to castle wolfenstein all the way up to the most current The New Colossus (im not counting Cyberpilot since its VR exclusive) ive played them all and enjoyed them thoroughly! actually thinking about doing another run of the whole series haha 😛
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yep, could be an intermittent issue, i.e. the display connector cable is moving towards failure but hasnt quite bit the bullet yet. if i were u i would indeed be on the lookout for a replacement unit before the display completely gives out on you.
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jaybee83 replied to Conan11's topic in Pro Max & Precision Mobile Workstation
youre paying "service fee" LOL but jokes aside, unfortunately thats kinda normal for hardware components offered by system integrators. whenever possible, just get the cheapest config and upgrade urself down the line 🙂 has absolutely nothing to do with specs, quality, performance or other....ist all just about margins! for people who cant bother to do it themselves or who are afraid to take apart their systems, this would just be a fire and forget solution i guess.- 14 replies
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im not saying the cooling is definitely bad, no idea actually. but just the combination of a 3080 with such a slim chassis makes me skeptical. in general, most such gaming laptops nowadays just "accept" that the cpu runs into 100C throttling and the gpu is severely power limited while still running at 80C+. sure, it "works", but its not an experience id like to spend so much money on (even if 1800 USD in this context can be considered a good deal, its still 1800 USD = a LOT of money). also, u cannot compare the price of a whole system to individual mxm gpu pricing. its nothing new that by themselves, mobile gpus are insanely expensive. ud have to compare it with another complete system to make it valid. otherwise, compare the price of a mobo with soldered cpu & gpu to mobo/mxm gpu/desktop cpu individually, THEN u have a valid comparison again 🙂
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any specifics as to that windows update? did it contain a gpu driver or system bugfixes? glad it got resolved though!
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hmmm....two tests u should do: 1) do those black lines still show up when u boot into safe mode? i.e. without gpu driver or other software interfering? 2) seems like u only jumped between 30/60 and 300Hz. what happens if u go to, say, 240Hz? 120? 144? i.e. in between steps how old is your machine? might be the display cable (connection to the mobo) thats slowly giving out on you (not being able to provide sufficient bandwidth at 300 Hz anymore, thus the above suggestion with dialing it back just a tad, not necessarily down to 60 Hz....)
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aight dudes, just ordered a copper IHS upgrade kit with rockit cool, incl delid/relid kit and that removal paste for the intel sTIM. i figured we will definitely use it several times, starting with the 12600 now and later on with a 12900K and raptor lake successors 🙂 even with the 12600 itll surely pay off, since at present im not able to let it stay full bore at 4.4 Ghz all core indefinitely. with 10-15C less that would be a LOT closer to a realistic implementation! ill likely not relid the cpu but just use the socket clamp to hold the copper IHS in place. Gallinstan between the die and copper iHS and Kryonaut between IHS and heatsink is the plan (nope, not taking any chances with liquid metal on top of IHS in a laptop!). will update u guys once i got the kit in 🤠
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i dont get it...the 5950X is SO frugal when it comes to power, can completely stretch its legs at 125W with stock clocks (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-9-5950x/19.html). so why cripple it at 88W?!?! they already did that with the previous gen 3950X DTRs from Clevo, and now the same mistake again.... 125W is really not that much, a proper DTR should be able to take care of 150W for the CPU easily, if not more.... (as an example, the 5950X in the techpowerup review oced to 4.5 ghz all core draws 194W in multi threaded)
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Witcher 3 Next Gen Delayed(hold the surprised gasps!)
jaybee83 replied to Hertzian56's topic in News & Announcements
Q4 is not too bad, just in time for nextgen cpus and gpus 😛 should be interesting! -
*grabs some popcorn while following this thread* keeping fingers crossed here! 🤠
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hahaha if it were up to me she'd just be upgraded from her previous LTSC 2019 to LTSC 2021. but nope, she wanted to go back to a "standard" windows version 😛 so win11 pro is what she got. second install runs smoothly now, debloated / decrapped everything and deactivated windows update 🙂 yeah man, with every new windows update it gets more and more tricky to get it lean... im shifting more towards pre-modded images like the one i used now (phoenix lite os, fitting name!), saves a lot of tuning work and nerves!
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Microsoft has also started testing experimental features for Windows 11 with the help of Insiders in the Dev Channel. Yesterday's Windows 11 Preview Build 25120 was the first one to introduce these features. More details on that here. Yep, Win 11 is the most secure Windows ever. And Microsoft try out a new way forcing you to use their Edge browser. Windows 11 and Teams got hacked several times during the first day of Pwn2Own 2022 During the first day of Pwn2Own Vancouver 2022, participants demonstrated various zero-day exploits and security loopholes in popular Microsoft products, such as Windows 11 and Teams. The new Windows 11 desktop search bar will make you use Edge @Mr. Fox @Ashtrix The latest Dev Channel Insider Preview Build came with an exciting new addition to the OS. However, using the new desktop search bar comes with a price many are unwilling to pay. Every search made through it will default to Edge, ignoring your already preselected browser. while i was doing the final touch ups on my lady's new machine with win11 pro, she kept insisting that i leave windows update intact and install all the latest updates as part of the setup. i recommended to at least wait a few weeks and delay any updates, but no dice. sooo i went ahead and....after the updates installed the system was shot LOL. no booting anymore, only BSODs and even after applying restore points the install was whacky. off to a fresh install now, lessons were learned (i hope) 😂
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jaybee83 replied to StripeySnake's topic in Custom Builds
u dont hear that every day @amd drivers muuuch better than nvidia LOL 😄 -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
surely nobody could stop us from just connecting the fans directly to the mobo instead of the pump? 😋 or is there some kinda gimmick that prevents the pump from switching on if u dont have the fans connected to it? 😅 -
haha dont let up, get on their nerves! lettem know there are customers out there that want them to shut up and take their money! 😄 did some more testing, restricting the cpu to 45W doesnt make a difference for the GPU, still stuck at 130W. on the other hand, was able to push the CPU to 145W peak in CB, albeit at the cost of the machine shutting off due to overheating LOL. guess ill have to lower the PROCHOT option in TS from 100 to 98C to prevent such from happening again haha 😛 gpu stays cool though, max ive seen so far was 74-75C after repeated superposition runs. as for the battery life, i managed to implement an automatic power plan switching when disconnecting the AC adapter. that, coupled with some TS tweaks to limit cpu power and lowering screen brightness lets me eke out roughly 4.5-5 hours total runtime. not bad, especially considering that at stock ud get more like 1.5-2.5 hours lol
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
as @papusan just mentioned, would be interesting to see how the arctic would fare with the corsair fans and vice versa. iirc the arctic rad is much thicker than its corsair colleague, so that leaves the pump and the fans as variables....unless of course the fin density is significantly different between the two rads? or the arctic cold plate is somehow skewed... in any case, congratz on that "open box" deal! 🙂 -
naaaaaaaaais! and yeah those import taxes sure do hurt shopping sprees outside the EU haha 😛 let us know how it goes with the install and most importantly: how it performs ;)
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