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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
i must admit, the thought actually has crossed my mind to get a 3090 Ti once 4000 series is out. itll really depend on the nextgen pricing vs. price drop on 30 series cards (if any). at the same time, after having saved up for 2.5 years i just wanna spoil myself for once and get the best of the best 😛 this, of course, is with the thought to maximize the base for future upgrades and get max lifetime out of the system (just like im doing currently with my Dark Knight 😉 ) in any case, its ridiculous that Nvidia is now "shocked and desperate" after the TOTALLY EXPECTED downfall of a) mining b) pandemic-related hardware craze c) having a monopol on high-end graphics cards (AMD aint happy either but i think their mining impact was somewhat lesser due to far lower total volumes of cards in circulation). -
duuuude....this will have serious RAMifications! 😁 good luck with the sale, i checked through your list but unfortunately nothing for me this time around 🙂
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oh wow that was fast with stock drying up....hope this is due to the machine being so popular and not because their stock was super low to begin with.... no updates yet from my side btw, but will be sure to let u guys know once smth is up 🙂
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i like your style 🤠😁
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sequential reads u mean? that could be either a connector bottleneck of the mobo or caused by the drive being an os drive and still doing lotsa stuff in the background...
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me and my lady did a "for her" / "for him" double last weekend, starting wirh Marry Me (which was surprisingly entertaining) and then followed by Moonfall (surprisingly dull, but at least unexpected ending). damn JLo looks so fine at her age! 😋😁
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
definitely put everything up in the marketplace here, lets give it a healthy boost 🙂 im also planning to put up parts from my lady's old machine, even found an NBT buyer for some of the parts before even posting here haha -
yep your conclusion is spot on with regards to the ssd performance. sata vs nvme barely makes any difference in everyday operations, unless u transfer huge files back and forth. the big jump is only going from spinning rust to ssd in general, after that those big PR performance numbers are just that...
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hm, try again on your report 😄 as to your initial questions: 1) 8 vs. 4 cores and increased ipc will surely bring snappier performance. also if u bump up the ram speed to 3200 mhz or above. ram amount shouldnt matter unless u usually have a gazillion chrome tabs open. 2) sure makes sense. only bottleneck will be if it bothers u to lug it around externally. alternatively, u can sell off the 4TB sata and invest the money to get a 4TB nvme. theyre not THAT much more expensive anymore. 3) if youre used to 15, then 17 will be noticeably larger. but in the end it depends on the display res and also the scaling u set vs. the available work space density (if that makes sense) that it results in.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
seems like extreme climate brings out extreme overclockers 😎 us moderates dont stand a chance! now being back in central europe i miss the humid hot equator climate from south east asia (spent last 4.5 yrs there?. im glad its now almost summer here so that helps, but tbh im totally solar powered, so the more heat n sun the better for me 🤠 -
absolutely recommend ANYone to play through the series! took me ages to finally get around to beat the first installment, but the next two were a breeze (life got in the way haha). absolutely brilliant story, character development, gameplay mechanics and indeed the graphics were very well thought through and atmospheric. cant wait for bioshock 4 to drop!
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haha yep exactly that! heres the vid i was referring to: caution, overabundance of electrifying puns 😋 -
issue is that all cpu and gpu heatsink screws are equipped with springs, thus u cant "overtighten" them but u can also not tighten them properly 😛 there have been some previous user tests where removing and replacing those springed screws with regular ones can significantly increase the cold plate pressure on the IHS. naturally, ull then have to be cautious not to overtighten / strip those replacement screws! 😅
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electric fox ive seen jay from j2c do like a psa on that since hes also located near the desert in so-cal, quite freaky stuff like being able to half-fry his display just by rubbing his butt on his chair 😅 ure in AZ iirc? -
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
thats my kinda paradise, i love it 😁 @Papusan YOUre the reason why used card market is spiraling out of control, cant even afford gtx 580s anymore 😋 @ryan dude, ure on vacation, who gives af what ur cb23 score is, just enjoy 😂 -
same here with core to core temp spread, im seeing roughly 5C difference. ive tried both manual spread with spatula and "cross" method, i think the latter is more suitable for the low mounting pressure in a laptop. the manual spatula spread is ideal on desktop because it ensures that every corner is truly and completely covered. the rest is done by the high mounting pressure and mostly even surface fit between the cooler and ihs. in the laptop, however, the manual spread cannot ensure balancing out any potential (but likely, in this context) uneven fit between cold plate and ihs, so the cross method i think provides the most ideal approach in filling all gaps. blob / pea method is not bad, per se, but based on experience leaves a lot to be desired in terms of reaching the last bit of the ihs corners. the only downside to the cross is that u might end up with a bit of paste spillage over the edges, but if its non conductive no worries, just a bit more cleaning up to do during next repaste 😋
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nice conclusion, laptops just SUCK too much to do any proper paste comparisons 😂 i love it haha
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ha, absolutely nooooo argument there on why they chose win10 for ltsc 2021 😄 5+ in-place upgrades, holy guacamole 😳 id say youre one lucky customer then 😅 its already difficult enough to decrap / debloat a clean install, so in combo with an in place upgrade makes that an absolute nogo for me...
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in-place upgrades is their own can of worms though, doesnt necessarily mean that the os upgraded to is crap 😄 for proper testing i would always do clean installs.
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havent had any issues with kryonaut, maybe u could give kryonaut extreme a try 🙂 otherwise, MX5 is supposed to be good, as well as noctua NT-H2 and coolermaster master gel pro v2
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double post 🙄
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FS: zTecPC "binned" i9-10900k delidded x170sm-g x170km-g
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"Reason for sale: Too many 10900k" rofl 😂 good luck with the sale bud! seems like a really good price 🙂 -
sweet! but wasnt Valve planning to provide a desktop compatible version of SteamOS, anyways? sooner or later, at least....
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no SPI programmer, weve been using Insyde H20FFT v6.44. thx for the headsup, im sure well get it installed soon 🙂 in the meantime, here is a write up of my baseline results (config is in my signature). note that all tests were run with FN+1 enabled, thus max fans with the back of the machine raised for improved airflow. CPU and GPU incl VRMs were repadded and thermal paste was TG Kryonaut. RAM absolutely no way to adjust anything for RAM, which is a shame, considering were sporting DDR-3800 modules from G.Skill here. in any case, they revert to SPD defaults of 2400-17-17-17-39, so dont expect any magical results lol I ran AIDA64 ten times in a row and providing the average results here: Read - 36191 MB/s Write - 34842 MB/s Copy - 34638 MB/s Latency - 79.0 ns In my Dark Knight those modules running at 3300 Mhz with all timings finetuned are more in the range of 47-51000 MB/s and 45 ns, so were talking at least a 35-40% boost on bandwidth and 75% boost on latency. im expecting much better results on the NH55, since its 12th gern (stronger IMC), only two RAM slots vs. four and HOPEFULLY better traces on the mobo. lets see what Premamod can do here, in case we get RAM control back 🙂 CPU CInebench R23 Bench (Realtime Priority) as before, another ten consecutive runs to get an idea of how the 12600 behaves at stock config. only tuning i did was to set High Perf. profile and tune whatever i can with TS (i.e. set wattage limits to 4095W for PL1/PL2/PP0 and 1023W for Power Limit 4, max out turbo timings, set PROCHOT to 98C) while running the stock bios. the first run started out strong at almost 12300, but then results kept decreasing as the cooling system got saturated until scores stabilized around the 4th run at 11800-11900 points. this puts the 12600 at about the same range as a 9900 (non-K) or 10700 (non-K). the scores im currently getting definitely beat the stock 12600 with all limits in place as per TechPowerUp review (https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-12600/6.html) by about 6-7%, but there is still performance to be had! fully unleashed the 12600 is capable of roughly 13800 pts. so im hoping the delid kit from Rockit Cool in combination with the copper IHS will be able to provide those extra 12% gains. Average = 11938 pts. Max = 12268 pts. Min = 11806 pts. Cinebench R23 10min. Stress I also wanted to see how the 12600 behaves under an extended load so i let it run for 10 min straight in CB23 and monitored everything with HWInfo64: Results: Overall clocks averaged 3.7 Ghz all core, with around 3.6-3.7 Ghz fluctuating in the end of the run. this is due to the high thermals that clocked in at 94.3C average across all cores. not a pretty sight, especially if u consider that the majority of cores hit a max of 100C, yikes. in any case, the system remained stable although ive had a crash before when i set PROCHOT to 100C, but at 98C it keeps running indefinitely. CPU wattage had a peak of a whopping 145W with an average of 88.4W. again, ill be curious to see how high we can make this go once we got thermals under control. Throttlestop 960M Bench (Realtime Priority) Once more 10 runs, with similar behaviour as previously seen in CB23: good first run, then steadily decreasing until stabilization hits. Average = 82.554 s Best = 80.409 s Worst = 83.757 s CPU-Z Bench 19.01.64 AVX2 Beta (Realtime Priority) Another ten runs with the same behaviour, you get the gist! This time for both Single and Multi-Threaded workloads. SIngle: Average = 1101.2 pts. Max = 1105.9 pts. Min = 1088.1 pts. Multi: Average = 7362.9 pts. Max = 7392.6 pts. Min = 7339.2 pts. Overall, this results in a 6,7x multi-core factor vs. single core, which means that HyperThreading is only able to improve the multi score by a measly 11-12%. although im expecting that the multi score is on the low side due to power and/or thermal constraints, whereas single can go full bore without limitations and, of course, at a higher frequency (4.8 max single vs. 4.4 Ghz max multi). GPU no tuning done here, just set high performance and fans to max. ill only start tuning and OC once we get premamod running 😉 3DMark Time Spy & Firestrike Ultra first up, forgive me for posting such "weird" data on the TIme Spy runs, thats all i get for not willing to upgrade my old license haha 😛 but should still be sufficient for comparison purposes. i did 3 runs each with every gpu bench for higher accuracy. Time Spy Averages GPU Score = 10978 Test 1 fps = 72.76 Test 2 fps = 62.03 CPU fps = 28.27 Firestrike Ultra Averages Total = 7405 GPU = 7310 Physics = 24855 Combined = 3786 overall it seems like these scores land right where they should be. a bit above average scores, but nothing to write home about. pretty solid. Unigine (1080p maxxed out) again every bench ran thrice to get consistent results. Sanctuary - 16686 pts / 393.5 fps Tropics - 7860 pts / 312.0 fps Heaven - 3692 pts / 146.5 fps Valley - 6324 pts / 151.1 fps Superposition - 15674 pts / 117.2 fps was nice to see that at 1080p the 3070 Ti even at stock is able to run everything super smooth 🙂 yes i know, those arent up to date triple AAA games here but nevertheless, at maxed out settings Heaven and later are not that easy to run! Firestrike Ultra 10 min. Stress As before with CB23 on the cpu i wanted to get an idea of how the gpu behaves when stressed over a longer period of time, monitored again via HWInfo64: Summary: - Running at high res the gpu is bottlenecked (naturally) and the cpu is pegged at 4.75 Ghz all core on average - CPU averages 60C across all cores while drawing 36W avg with a peak of 65W - Total System Power averaged 198W with a peak at 231W (PSU rated for 230W) - RAM temps averaged 53-54C on the two sticks - GPU temp average 76C with a max. at 80C - GPU Hot Spot averaged 88C with a max. at 92C - GPU Power averaged 129W with a peak at 130W, seems like its very tightly power controlled! - GPU Core averaged 1481 Mhz, with a total range of 1350 to 1665 Mhz - GPU vRAM averaged 1603 Mhz, with a total range of 1500 to 1750 Mhz (interesting to see the vRAM clocks fluctuating! WTF!) alright, this is it for now regarding the baseline. now lets see what we can coax out of it with identical hardware, cooling and firmware mods only biatch! 😎 -
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