Mr. Fox

That is one of the reasons (in addition to BGA filth) we lost interest in laptops. You have to give up too much. Not worth it.

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2080 Ti https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/16287257 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5546591_ https://hwbot.org/submission/5546597 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/110877732 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5546648_

No need for Intel baseline profile here. Works as intended.

Yeah, the whole thing is pretty sketchy. I bet they were hoping nobody noticed. I do think they generated that entire thing just for clickbait. Totally bogus "article" of misinformation.

Interesting that they used a QS CPU for testing. Casts even more doubt on what they are trying to do. Clickbait for drama. Never let an opportunity to fabricate a crisis go to waste. Clicky-clicky.

Don't send a boy to do a man's job... PC Gamer: plays games on a PC Overclocker: employs a combination of knowledge, skill, trial and error to run a processor at elevated frequencies; may also play games on a PC Neither endeavor ends well if you are attempting to perform the task using defective e-waste.

Yup, they're in the same league of dishonest devil-worshippers as NVIDIA and AMD and Micro$lop and crApple and Google and Meta. No surprise. Each of them is cartel of shysters that conspire on ways to screw us all. We have to pick our poisons and decide which cartel(s) are least objectionable. Big Tech, Big Media, Big Pharma and Big Government are all diabolical and will eventually end us all. There is nothing good that can be said of any of them. Big Tech: LoL = League of Liars Satan = Father of Lies

Exactly. It's either good and works correctly, or it's junk and goes back for a refund right away. No workarounds. Workarounds to make a defective part usable is not an acceptable solution. If you have to stick to no more than stock Intel power limits or limit boost clocks to find stability you have a part that never should have made it to store shelves. The K/KF/KS SKUs are made for the express purpose of being unlocked and overclockable and if they are unstable at stock boost clocks or have no available headroom left for overclocking they are defective units and a refund or replacement should be expected, no questions asked. It never should have passed QC. They should also put some tight restrictions around the V/F curve on what the maximum acceptable stock turbo max Vcore is for a given SKU. Say something like 1.425V for the advertised turbo max. If it takes 1 mV more than 1.425V for stock turbo max then it is relegated to a lower SKU, capped to a lower boost clock and Vcore max and not sold as an unlocked SKU. They should also standardize the SP rating system and make it a normal component of the UEFI for all brands. So, if you buy an MSI, Gigabyte, ASRock or ASUS motherboard and install the CPU in any of them, they will all assign an accurate and consistent SP rating that will be the same with BIOS defaults on any brand. If you install it in an ASUS motherboard and it has an SP108, then you install it in a MSI or Gigabyte, or ASRock motherboard that same CPU shows an SP108. This should also be applied to AMD processors in the same manner. End the silicon lottery with a very black and white minimum baseline that is published and readily available to the public, printed on the box or included product documentation, and make the manufacturers accountable for every CPU they sell. No more bad samples or lottery losers. You'll still have lottery winners that stand out as exceptional samples, but also a guaranteed minimum outcome that should be acceptable to every consumer. And, no argument or debate if you end up with a short straw that slips through the QC process somehow. Automatic replacement or refund.

Given the complaints are from US-based employees I am not sure how much merit they have. It might be true, but this is an often-abused accusation that is not based on fact or truth. It's too common for someone that is butt-hurt or legitimately mistreated to pile on with extra nonsense as if to exact some sort of revenge on their abuser. Unless one of them recorded it and has evidence to support their accusations, I don't know that I would put any stock in the accuracy of the information about racist and abusive rhetoric. Embellishing, lying and playing the racist/sexual harassment card has become very common and now it is like the story of the boy that cried wolf.

This comes at no surprise to us, but it is always nice to see things on YouTube that are accurate rather than shilled for the zombie sheeple.

I just don't like spending lots of money on some things, and things like monitors, printers, mice and keyboards are some of those things. They don't make it go faster and I can't visually discern a lot of difference between an expensive and a cheap monitor. Basically anything that doesn't make it run colder and go faster, I don't like spending lots of money on it and I don't find enough value in having it to feel like I am not getting screwed. When it comes to monitors, as long as it has lots of usable screen real estate, the refresh rate is 120Hz or higher and the text isn't blurry I am happy unless the colors are just absolutely horrid. They generally are, I agree. But, all of them have their ups and downs. Intel, NVIDIA, AMD and all of the vendors that use portions of their technology have their hiccups. I think when any of them do have a misstep of some sort it gets blown way out of proportion by the media for the sake of clicks and controversy. They always need a crisis of some sort. And, in some cases end-user ignorance and lack of knowledge comes into play. Idiot-proof products are seldom enthusiast-grade products. I don't need to "fix" anything or dumb-down my power limits and clock speeds. I like how my CPUs work, but I didn't like the crappy silicon samples I returned for a refund. I don't care what Intel defaults are. I bought what I bought to overclock it, not so I could run it stock. Speaking of hiccups and missteps... hopefully they will get it sorted and back on track soon. There are not many good alternatives and some of their products are unique and have no competing alternative solutions.

Exciting stuff. The anticipation of a new part being shipped slowly is always hard for me. A few days feel like a week and a couple of weeks feels like a month. I think $500 for any monitor is getting screwed, LOL. Stupid price for something that represents a massive profit margin for the manufacturer. But, I got it for less than what others that bought it got screwed for. (That doesn't make it right, only means I didn't get screwed as badly as others.)

I still haven't forgiven myself for spending over $500 on my 1440p 165Hz IPS monitor like 6 years ago and still feel like I got screwed real bad on the price, LoL. 🤣 😝🤑

I will probably never consider owning OLED display because (a) they are too expensive, and (b) having to do things special to avoid burn-in (such as auto-hiding the task bar) simply cramp my style too much to be worth it to me. Those are my personal quirks, which may not be representative of those that personally find the cost and inconvenience trade-offs to be worth it for the beauty or quality of the screen output.

If most users hate it, then they'll probably make it a permanent part of Winduhz 11.

Now we just need a display that can redact/filter out all of the morally and politically incorrect propaganda from Fallout 76 (and other Bethesda titles). 🤣

They can smooch the part of my body that sits on the potty when I take a dump Windows 11.

People told me I was crazy and "no way it could happen" but one of the MSI BIOS updates on my Unify-X erased the SPD on my TeamGroup Delta memory kit that was in it. Vitality Jungle confirmed it from the SPD dump. So, call me crazy... it was running like a top. I flashed the BIOS update and it never booted again with the memory that was installed at the time of the flash. Will your system POST using different modules?

Providing real solutions would be too difficult. Especially for ASUS. Just dumb it down for all.

I honestly think it is all just clickbait and social media titillation, and the only problem is idiots that own computers and loose nuts on top of the keyboard. So, the ASUS solution is to release turdbook firmware for desktops and treat all of their customers like they are as dumb as a box of rocks. Many of them are, and they need to figure it out, or go back to consoles and turdbooks, rather than having their hands held by a baby-sitter. Leave the rest of us out of it. Not our problem.

And the way they tested the cooler was idiotic. They made it seem like an acceptable solution by limiting the stress level and not running the CPU at full-tilt maximum load. It is no wonder noobs and children are so dumb. They are being groomed to be stupid. The conclusion should have been if you want to use air cooling, buy a weaker CPU because the best air cooler can't handle maximum performance from a CPU that offers higher levels of performance.

Another thought that comes to mind since my last comments... The other thing we really don't know about this perceived issue is how many of these "problem units" are because silly kids are trying to use tower air coolers, especially cheap trash budget coolers from Amazon and AliExpress, with a 32 core CPU trying to boost itself to 6.0+ GHz with 1.500V and 400W. I see photos all the time in places like Facepoot Marketplace with "high end gaming PC" in the listing title with one of these i9 CPUs tucked underneath an air cooler and chuckle to myself about what kind of crazy person expects to cool 400W with a cooler rated for 250W or less. Crashing should not cause anyone to have a surprised look on their face.

Awesome. Thank you. 🙂 Looks like a sweet setup. That is true, but to some degree it might not be a real problem, or not as widespread as the clickbait tech news is suggesting if there are circumstances that it is be being caused by a lack of knowledge and inexperience with noobs trying to use wrong settings and undervolting to a stupid degree, etc. And, we know for sure that happens. Undervolting has become very popular, and if it is not done correctly and people try to apply a cookie cutter approach because their friends on Facebook said to do it, that just makes a mess of things. I agree it should never be happening running BIOS defaults. It is does, then either the firmware is goofed up or something is wrong with the CPU.