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Mr. Fox
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21 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:
I will have to test this to see how it compares with the consumer feces versions in benching.
https://www.overclock.net/posts/29552735/
OK, I have run disk benchmarks and CPU (Cinebench) benchmarks and there is really nothing to write home about. Essentially a waste of time IMHO. I am probably going to reclaim the drive space for storage again because I see no meaningful benefit to having Windows Server installed. I did not run any 3D benchmarks. My W10 and W11 OSes are fully debloated and optimized. I did a bit of debloating to Windows Server as well, but I am not convinced it is worth the effort. I also found a couple of my applications do not install on Windows Server. I get an error telling me the OS is not supported.
The disk benchmarks were all run on the same NVMe to avoid variance as much as possible. The caveat is it is the Windows 10 IoT LTSC boot drive, so the speeds will be a bit less on Windows 10 for that reason. But, from my perspective it is within a normal margin of error regardless. Certainly not enough to matter in the grand scheme of things.
I may run a couple of 3D benchmarks and if there are any meaningful differences I will post the results, but NVMe and CPU performance offer no meaningful benefit using Windows Server.
https://www.overclock.net/attachments/w11-vs-server-jpg.2749319/
https://www.overclock.net/attachments/w10-p310-os-jpg.2749320/
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40 minutes ago, electrosoft said:
If used market prices hit $4-5k, I can almost guarantee you I will sell my 5090 and ride this 9070xt or whatevewr to what comes next......
Like I said, I returned the Nitro+ 9070xt brand new in box because I just couldn't stomach that oddly placed 12v2x6 connector and replaced it with a Red Devil 9070xt which has the most phases off all models available AND a 3x8pin power setup.
3090 is just a wee bit too underpowered for me to regress that badly....
9070 XT is definitely a solid option for raw performance. Radeon features are comparatively low and the hotspot temps are comparatively very high. The minimal amount of time I spend gaming either one would be fine and I would buy the cheapest option as long as a water block is immediately available. I don't think I like any GPU enough to get excited about using it with a stock air cooler.
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1 hour ago, Papusan said:
Asus was so kind increase the prices with only $150. Zotac prefered more of the cake due they often offer cheaper cards than Asus. Can't beat greed. $500 extra for increased vram prices is quite an high price hike. And they want $250 for the vram price increase for 5080's.
ZOTAC cancels GPU orders: 16GB VRAM models are $250 more expensive; 32GB models are $500 more expensive.
It makes we want to sell my 5090 for enough to build a complete new system with a nice used 3090 that uses three 8-pin PCIe power connectors.
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I will have to test this to see how it compares with the consumer feces versions in benching.
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43 minutes ago, electrosoft said:
Might want to login to your FedEx account and check (you would need to anyhow to see the documents portion of the program).
If you don't pay online within 4 days, they will mail you a physical invoice which is what I'm going to wait for till it arrives.....
The actual customs duty is $17.70. The Disbursement Fee is a FedEx shakedown charge since they made it convenient for you by them paying the fees directly. The fact the disbursement fee is almost the same as the customs duty is highway robbery.
In the end, it's the cost of a small order of chinese take away but its the principle for myself and just another 15% tax no matter how you slice it up going right into the government's pocket and then FedEx profiteering on top of it resulting in a ~22% overall fee.
I had already done that and I cannot find anything in my FedEx account relating to it. I do find the delivery several weeks ago but nothing else I can find.
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56 minutes ago, electrosoft said:
Just got my email for tariff duties owed on the TG WV2P..... $32.70 🤬
I still have not received one.
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26 minutes ago, Papusan said:
Intel, is your best friend in the AI race.
Intel confirms that the PC and laptop CPU market is not its priority, discusses Nova Lake, the wafer shortage, Intel 14A, and defines Panther Lake
Intel confirms that its priority is not PC and laptop CPUs, so it will focus on servers.
PC enthusiast do not have any friends left in the industry where hardware is concerned. We are an annoyance and inconvenience that has been cast aside.
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4 hours ago, jaybee83 said:
wait, did that prospective job offer fall through? it sounded so promising!
I've applied for a lot of jobs I am ideally suited for and could do with my eyes closed that have not worked out. Ageism is illegal, but it is more real than anyone wants to admit. I have one that looks even better that I have my third interview for today that I pray works out and it would probably end up being the best one I have applied for. The one that looked promising that you referred to is not off the table, but the President wanted to see how how the financials looked for 2025 and how January revenue looks before adding a new c-suite resource to staff.
On the WireView Pro... when you get around to it, this screenshot might be useful if you run into any complications getting Windows to correctly identify it. I think the key is manually installing the driver in Device Manager, immediately powering off and unplugging the PSU long enough for the board and everything attached to lose power.
5 hours ago, Raiderman said:@Mr. Fox Sent a message to your phone. Glad to see you are doing ok.
It appears there was some sort of delivery failure. I replied and it shows to have been sent, but you evidently cannot see the reply on your end. Thanks for checking on me, brother. I really appreciate it.
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25 minutes ago, Raiderman said:
@Mr. Fox Sent a message to your phone. Glad to see you are doing ok.
Thanks, brother. Still kickin' and looking for work.
1 minute ago, jaybee83 said:awesome update, very valuable info 🙂 will save it locally to have on hand once i get to vbios flashing.
/personal rant
ive been out of order this whole week with the flu, completely knocked me off my feet. this has only been the second time in my life ive had the actual flu, and both times suuuuuuucked unbelievably. issue being that while other illnesses usually only have a peak that lasts about 1-2 days before tapering off this bloody thing keeps kicking me in the balls for a full week before it finally lets go, its exhausting!
now at least able to sit at my desk again without toppling over.....influenza is a b*tch. one thing is for sure: ill never skip another flu shot round again, it wont get easier with age down the line. luckilly my company offers them for free to all employees.
and, of course, now my little girl started developing a fever last night...my wife remains the last woman standing here keeping the gears turning, i dont know what i would do without her.
/personal rant
Sorry to hear that you have been ill, brother. I'll keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers.
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2 hours ago, Papusan said:
First let em bleed...
NVIDIA is being sued for using 500 TB of pirated books to train its AI
Today we learned that NVIDIA is facing a lawsuit filed in the Northern District of California, USA, for using pirated books to train AI models.
I hope that they go to trial, lose, spend a fortune in defense costs in the process and get slammed with an absurd jury verdict that breaks their bank and leaves them with inadequate capital to continue with the AI nonsense and nothing left to offer Jensen's commie crony bastards in China. Not just NVIDIA... OpenAI (ChatGPT), Microsoft (Copilot), Anthropic (Claude), Google (Gemini) and Apple all deserve to burn in the same fire pit as the Green Goblin.
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3 hours ago, electrosoft said:
I really feel like the AI boom is either going to crash or greatly recede sooner than later but we will see. Microsoft CEO openly questioned its profit viability.....May just be wishful thinking....
I'll be the first to admit that I'm optimistic when I shouldn't be most of the time, but I honestly believe (and truly hope) the AI clown circus house of cards will very soon collapse super hard and burst into flames. I hope that it spooks investors badly enough that they all pull out frantically and leave the developers with no operating capital to function with and cause GPU and memory prices to hit history-making rock bottom prices with an oversaturated market flooded with new and used parts and cancelled orders that have to be sold for pennies on the dollar in order to get rid of it.
I think there's a good possibility that the stock of parts available, (or visibly seeming to be absent,) in reality, is not an accurate reflection of the apparent lack thereof we see at the storefront. I suspect there are secret GPU and memory stockpiles that nobody knows about that are being held for the highest bidders and reserved for corporate customers that pay excessive prices and submit to scalping just to get whatever they want and need. It would be awesome and hilarious if the highest bidders and corporate buyers all suddenly have no money and most of them go out of business, vanish or change their focus to something else. It would be fun to watch Micron/Crucial, NVIDIA, Samsung and others in the silicon production space have to get down on their knees and beg consumers to buy their brand and offer it dirt cheap, even below cost just to unload it, after their back-stabbing treachery.
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@jaybee83 in case you were not already aware, the WireView Pro II sensors now show in the latest beta version of HWiNFO64, but the drivers need to be installed for it to be visible to Windows for sensor reporting. Otherwise, HWiNFO64 will not be aware it is present.
If you haven't already tried to get the WireView software working (which is NOT needed for HWiNFO64) I found it to be a bit tricky. Hit me up here if you run into any issues. It took three tries for me. If you change vBIOS after installing it you also need to delete it from Device Manager and let it reinstall itself for it to be visible to the software. Also very important after installing the driver in Device Manager to shut down and disconnect the PSU from power completely. Then restore power and boot up. Otherwise, the software update will not take effect. The WireView Pro II requires a full removal of power from the motherboard and GPU to initialize after the driver installation.
Of course none of this is necessary to use the WireView Pro II as a standalone device without any software monitoring features.
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If this is accurate it is wonderful news.
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Chris Titus:
🆕 The Linux Book
The book is now feature complete, but I'm waiting for publication. I want to create and update a few video tutorials for certain sections. This project will continue to receive updates well into the future as the Linux ecosystem evolves.
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7 hours ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:
I think the issue is deeper than AI specifically.
When you enter a building, do you take the stairs or the elevator by default?
When you travel somewhere unfamiliar, do you use a paper map or Google Maps?
When you need to remember a phone number or an address, do you commit it to memory or store it on your phone?
No matter how we frame it, our cognitive and physical habits have been eroding for decades. It happens gradually and mostly without us noticing.
I grew up in a time when elevators were rare. You took the stairs because there was no alternative. When you needed a phone number or an address, you used the yellow pages or asked around. Your brain was the address book. I carried hundreds of numbers and locations in my head and could recall them instantly.
Navigation worked the same way. You learned your surroundings by observing them. You placed mental markers along the way. Physical maps mattered. An atlas was a normal household item. Many kids today have never even seen one.
AI is not the beginning of this shift. It is just the latest step in a long process where convenience replaces effort and external tools quietly take over functions we used to exercise ourselves.
The problem is not using technology. The problem is forgetting what we give up when we stop exercising those abilities altogether.💯 ‼️
Very well said and highly accurate.
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59 minutes ago, Papusan said:
You can still be dumber. in a speed you never thought was possible before. @Mr. Fox
When a person relies on or invests too much trust in technology rather than leveraging and utilizing it is where the problems start. Technology is an assistive tool, not a substitute for the ability to think and make good choices. Technology can only process information. GIGO... garbage in, garbage out. The "leaders" of technology are hoping we lose sight of that and allow ignorance, apathy, laziness and complacency to replace prudence. What makes it particular dangerous is that all of those attributes are so common.
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Really liking MX Linux. I am glad that I decided to give this distro a go. I've got all of my Windoze applications working in Winboat. Micro$lop PowerBI, Excel, Word, Outlook, Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop, etc. Windoze is continuing on the path of become irrelevant by all measurements.
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Really liking MX Linux. I am glad that I decided to give this distro a go. I've got all of my Windoze applications working in Winboat. Micro$lop PowerBI, Excel, Word, Outlook, Adobe Acrobat, Photoshop, etc. Windoze is continuing on the path of become irrelevant.
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It is difficult for anyone to find something nice to say about Winduhz because it is not a nice OS.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
in Desktop Hardware
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Enterprise is the same as Pro except for some added crap for domain networking. LTSC in totally different and dramatically less bloated. IoT has a longer service window than LTSC if you care about updates. Rebloating to play games is only necessary if you play games that are trash-dependent, like crap from Micro$lop Game Studios. Enterprise (non-LTSC) has all of the same bloat you find in Pro already baked in. No difference in terms of bloat between the two.
Server performs the same as W10 and W11 IoT LTSC overall. W11 Pro starts to show its bloat a little bit in terms of CPU overhead, but still so close between the three that I don't think it warrants the effort of a clean install for the sake of performance gains because the results are within a normal margin of error. If one needed to do a clean install for other reasons (cancer updates, corruption, malware, etc.) then IoT LTSC is still probably the best option. There is less trash in IoT LTSC to deal with. Server is similar, but has other added nonsense that has to be disabled (like Server Manager loading at startup).
At the end of the day none of them are particularly good OSes and there are no dramatic differences. W11 Pro is the slowest OS of all due to the payload of filth and product regressions in general. We already knew that, so no surprise. Unfortunately, I do not have W11 IoT LTSC installed on this system, but that is probably good for the average user in terms of this comparison since it highlights the dumpster fire better.
Here are some additional photos with just ordinary gamerboy PBO overclocking (thus lower Cinebench scores and higher CPU-Z single thread scores) versus manual overclocking. Using PBO is probably a better way to compare them since you are leaving the OS to impose its will on hardware versus hardware imposing its will on Windoze.
Here are the same images before that you could not see for some reason. The drive tested is the W10 OS drive so take that into consideration on the write speeds.