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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Wait, are there actually software utilities for overclocking within Linux now? -
What about through one of the m.2 slots? I know there are some eGPU adapters/enclosures that connect to a laptop through an m.2 slot, which gives 4 PCIE lanes. I'd imagine there'd still be a big hit to performance, but not as much as through the thunderbolt port.
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Haha, I was raised in front of a computer screen playing games, and now I make them. As always, it depends on the person as my interests always involved computers to some degree. Video games allow me to live up to my potential because I have no idea what else I'd be doing. However, and this applies to everyone, self control also plays a big part, because nobody should be playing video games if they haven't completed the things they need to get done first. -
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
In a case like this, thermoelectric coolers start making more sense since they won't be overwhelmed by the CPU's head output, and increasing the temperature differential will lead to enhanced cooling, therefore stabilizing super high overclocks. I'm excited to see what's in store for TECs and other exotic cooling in the future. Maybe a ready made phase change cooling that reaches sub zero temperatures will become commonplace for enthusiast high performance desktops. -
The stability of your RAM speed is affected by the motherboard, the memory itself, and also the CPU. For example, I have one 10900K in which my RAM only runs at its rated XMP profile speeds when installed in slots 1 and 3, and another better binned 10900K where my RAM only runs at its rated XMP profile speeds when installed in slots 2 and 4. You can also try loosening the timings a little or raise the memory voltage and see if that helps.
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
My commentary would be something along the lines of this: "Whatchu thinkin' fool? 1.7 grand is enough to build yoself one sick rig! Get yo discounted parts on ebay today!" I'm such a cheapskake and you guys all know it 🤣. I don't know how I balance being so frugal with being a hardware enthusiast. I'm basically subsisting on brother @Mr. Fox's used parts whenever he has some goodies up for sale on the marketplace, and also on any other bones thrown my way through deals I stumble across. -
Nice, so basically dual rank RAM is faster than single rank at the same clock speed and timings, but single rank is more tunable and therefore ends up being faster in an absolute sense? If so, that means I don't have to be disappointed with the RAM I bought for my desktop as those are single rank DIMMs that I currently have running at 4200 MHz and it seems to still have headroom for higher speeds. I've finally started my RAM overclocking adventure, but on my desktop first before I do the same thing on my X170. The verdict I'm seeing here is go with dual rank kits if your motherboard can't handle high memory frequencies and / or low timings, and go with single rank kits if your motherboard can handle high frequencies and / or low timings.
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Oh nice really? I thought for sure that dual rank kits always outperformed single rank kits at the same speed, even with tightened timings on the single rank kit. That's gonna make my RAM tuning a lot more enjoyable. Part of the reason I was procrastinating with my RAM tuning was because I was not looking forward to having to constantly be pulling the CMOS battery. It's good to know there's a keyboard combination for this.
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@jcordero Do you have a link to the Dsanke unlocked BIOS still that @Snowleopard can use?
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Are your sticks single rank or dual rank? I can only find a kit of that speed in a 4x8GB configuration, which would be 4 single rank sticks most likely. I went with my Crucial Ballistix kit specifically because it seemed like a good dual rank kit. The two of you may want to try a different kit. It looks to me like the RAM you two got just isn't that good. I personally went with this kit here: https://www.crucial.com/memory/ddr4/bl2k16g32c16s4b This Crucial Ballistix 32 GB 3200MHz kit is fully compatible with this laptop. Stock settings work great. I haven't taken the memory for a spin on overclocking just yet, but I'm planning to soon. I was planning to about 2 weeks ago, but you know life gets busy sometimes. 🤣 In any case, the binning of the RAM is really going to help with speeds. This kit has higher binned sticks and isn't overly expensive either.
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Try setting everything to auto timings and set the voltage to 1.35 volts. I'm pretty sure 3200 MHz will require around 1.35 volts.
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
They are basically equivalent to a 3080 yes. I'm waiting to get a 6800 XT myself, but I'm waiting for the price to dip below $500. You could get them new for around $520 during newegg's last big black friday and christmas sales. I'd say around $600 is a bad deal for used ones given it was possible to obtain a new one for less than that just a few weeks ago. I think I might've waited too long though as prices seem to be going back up again... Screw this crappy market. -
Thanks for this information! I didn't know about that keyboard combination. Is there a list of different special keyboard combinations for this laptop along with a description of what they do? So far, I now know about the following: Press Fn + 1 - Set fans to max speed Hold Fn + D on startup - Reset BIOS Hold Fn + M, then press the power button once - ???. I saw this button combination on NBR before it shut down, but I have no idea what it does. That's very strange. The XMP profile doesn't show up at all in the memory overclocking section? What kit did you get?
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Pull the battery and power supplies, then pull the CMOS battery, wait 15-30 seconds, then plug the CMOS battery back in. Don't worry if you still get a black screen, it will take about twice as long to boot than normal after a reset as the laptop is rebuilding a voltage table for your CPU.
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100 MHz base with a 12x multiplier will be 2400 MHz effective. The multipler in this BIOS reflects the single data rate speed, so double that multipler to get your effective speed. I know, weird right? At first I couldn't figure out why my laptop wouldn't boot when I manually set all the settings in my custom profile to the exact same settings from my XMP profile. Turns out, I was misinterpreting the multiplier and trying to run my sticks at 6400 MHz effective. Start with auto timings if you can.
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I'd say try going up in steps of 100 MHz at most and raise the voltage by 50mv each time you experience instability. That has seemed to work well for me so far.
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Dual rank sticks are best as they offer the least memory stalls, and therefore highest performance. I know for desktops that there are some 3200 MHz sticks that can go as low as CL 14 for the CAS latency. I'd imagine the high speed DDR4 3800 MHz SODIMMS could probably do 3200 MHz at very low timings. Even if the kit has a higher speed than you can take advantage of, it's still beneficial as that means you should be able to run lower timings at lower speeds than other kits can.
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Looks nice! How much do those fittings affect the flow rate? -
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
A new lineup of 18 inch laptop was unveiled at CES today. These include offerings from Acer, Alienware, Asus, and Razer. I was really excited for the return of 18 inch laptops, but the excitement has kinda died already after I saw they're 18 inch 16:10, not 18 inch 16:9. I'm not really sure what the appeal of 16:10 screens is, but I'm also a fan of widescreens so go figure. There have been some improvements. For example, Alienware's new M18 laptop has a giant unified vapor chamber covering both the CPU and GPU, but all these models look weird to me because of the aspect ratio. I was expecting something larger in a 16:9 aspect ratio. I'll wait to see what Clevo has to offer as there is a rumored X370 model coming from them. In short, there have been improvements, but still nothing that I REALLY like. Nothing fully upgradeable either. At the very least, I want the ability to plop in a desktop CPU into a laptop. The HK CPUs are desktop CPUs, just without the IHS and soldered onto the laptop's motherboard. With the size of these laptops, an LGA socket should be able to be easily included. -
Seems the experience is vendor dependent then. That one you got which was from BOXX originally seems to have a good motherboard and good firmware.
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Doesn't disabling the E-Cores allow you to open up the P-Cores even further though? I think with the E-Cores and hyperthreading disabled (just for giggles), you could possibly gain another 200-300 MHz on top of what you can already achieve. -
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
So does this mean going for the 13900KF yields the best chances of getting a highly binned chip? If so, I'll target the 13900KF instead since I don't have much of a use for integrated graphics. -
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Clamibot replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Merry Christmas Bro Papusan! -
Pretty much the ability to keep your laptop useful as a gaming laptop for a longer period of time. The reason being is that typically people (including us enthusiasts) need a GPU upgrade long before they need a CPU upgrade to maintain adequate performance in games. Gotta keep them frames coming man! The problem with BGA laptops is that it forces you to pay for other components you don't need or want to upgrade just to get a better graphics card. eGPUs are a pretty good alternative in theory, but we haven't had an interface for them to connect to laptops with that would yield their full performance until recently with Thunderbolt 4 and the like. Even then, you still have to carry extra items around with you. The biggest advantages with MXM are that it gave the same GPU upgradeability for laptops as we enjoy with desktops, and it kept the system as an all in one package. This way, all your hardware was contained in one seamless package that could easily be transported, and you wouldn't have to carry around any extra items like an eGPU enclosure.